{"id":1019,"date":"2011-04-27T20:16:23","date_gmt":"2011-04-28T01:16:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kribit.com\/blog\/?p=1019"},"modified":"2011-04-27T21:18:00","modified_gmt":"2011-04-28T02:18:00","slug":"lonesome-dove-book-club-dinner","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kribit.com\/blog\/2011\/04\/27\/lonesome-dove-book-club-dinner\/","title":{"rendered":"Lonesome Dove book club dinner"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last year a friend of mine started a book club.  It&#8217;s just six of us and we take turns picking books and meet once a month at someone&#8217;s house for dinner and discussion.  Sometimes the cook tries to match the dinner to the book.  This month was my turn and I decided to make everyone read <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lonesome_dove\">Lonesome Dove<\/a> since none of them had ever read a western before.  And because I am who I am, I had to have a themed dinner.<\/p>\n<p>The main course was easy to pick: beef!  (The book is about a cattle drive, fyi.)  I&#8217;ve made this <a href=\"http:\/\/allrecipes.com\/Recipe\/Glazed-Corned-Beef\/Detail.aspx\">Glazed Corned Beef<\/a> recipe several times and it&#8217;s delicious so I decided to go for it again.  I like to throw baby carrots in there to cook too for the vegetable portion of the meal.  To go with this, I also wanted to make sourdough biscuits in my cast iron skillet.  I got the recipe from my <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wagonmound.com\/cookbk2_a.html\">Forty Years Behind the Lid: Chuckwagon Grub by Richard Bolt<\/a> cookbook.  (Sourdough recipe is actually available online <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lodgemfg.com\/recipe-sourdough-biscuit.asp\">here<\/a>).  I made the sourdough starter only a night ahead of time since it has commercial yeast and raw potato to feed it.  I halved the recipe and made it in a quart jar.  It started bubbling pretty quickly and overflowed the jar constantly for about two hours before I finally scooped some off the top and put it in the fridge.  Note for next time: quarter the recipe or use a larger container.<\/p>\n<p>Next was to figure out dessert and I was stuck between choosing vinegar pie or dried apple pie.  The vinegar pie is also from the Richard Bolt cookbook (uses apple cider vinegar) so I know it&#8217;s good for cattle drives; this recipe has no eggs.  The dried apple pie is from <a href=\"http:\/\/shop.maryjanesfarm.org\/store\/p\/129-MaryJane-s-Ideabook-Cookbook-Lifebook.aspx\">MaryJane Butters&#8217; Ideabook, Cookbook, Lifebook<\/a> but it also has a custard layer and a meringue layer, and a cattle drive probably wouldn&#8217;t have chickens and a dairy cow.  It&#8217;s more of a pioneer pie but I was eager to use some of the free bushel of apples I had gotten this winter from the farmers&#8217; market and dried.<\/p>\n<p>I was slightly afraid of how either of them would taste though.  Here is a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amateurgourmet.com\/2004\/07\/vinegar_pie_by_.html\">review<\/a> of vinegar pie in which the taster has to be forced to eat it:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s &#8230; interesting,&#8221; he said, after his first mouthful.<\/p>\n<p>Interesting good or bad?<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You can taste the vinegar,&#8221; he decided, &#8220;but it&#8217;s not a bad taste necessarily. It is strong, though.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I thought it had a faintly apple juice-y flavor, due no doubt to that apple cider vinegar. Truth be told, it wasn&#8217;t the most pleasing flavor. I thought it a little peculiar.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Mmmm,&#8221; said Josh gamely, rubbing his belly in an attempt at appreciation.<\/p>\n<p>But if you were holed up in a dugout in Minnesota, ready to face the long winter, wouldn&#8217;t you appreciate the sweet end to a meal? Or if you were a sharecropper in Tennessee, looking to stretch your budget as far as at would go?<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Sure,&#8221; nodded Josh carefully. &#8220;But I don&#8217;t know how much more of this pie I&#8217;m going to eat right NOW, if that&#8217;s okay.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It wasn&#8217;t okay. I slammed my hand down on the table and demanded he continue eating another SLICE OF HISTORY. He did. But I knew in my heart of hearts he was eating it because he was scared of me, not because he really liked it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I also felt the name of the pie might be slightly off-putting.  And in my <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nativeground.com\/books-cds\/kitchen-home\/43-the-lost-art-of-pie-making-made-easy.html\">The Lost Art of Pie Making Made Easy by Barbara Swell<\/a> cookbook, in the place of a recipe for dried apple pie, there is this poem from The Ladies Home Journal, September 1886:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I hate, abhor, detest, despise,<br \/>\nAbominate dried apple pies!<br \/>\nTread on my toes and tell me lies,<br \/>\nBut don&#8217;t give me dried apple pies!&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I personally love old fashioned pies and would enjoy either of them, I was sure, but I wasn&#8217;t so sure about my dinner guests.  I decided to make both and hope each person liked at least one of them.  (I also decided to call the vinegar pie &#8220;custard pie&#8221; until they had tried it and hope the vinegar smell wouldn&#8217;t linger in my kitchen to give me away.)<\/p>\n<p>So how did it go?<\/p>\n<p>The corned beef was good, as expected since I had made it before.  The sourdough biscuits were probably my favorite item of the night, simply because I was unsure how well my starter would work; it ended up working beautifully.  After I took it out of the fridge, I added more flour and water since it had shrunk a bit but it took a while for it to start bubbling this time.  I had to use pretty much the entire quart jar of starter for the pan of biscuits so I really do need a bigger container if I want to be able to make enough to keep some starter for later, which is the whole point of having starter.  However, I would be more likely to be making a small amount of biscuits or bread than a whole pan and therefore would need less starter on a daily basis.  I actually will be trying a different recipe for starter next time that only calls for one cup each of flour and water so that would definitely fit in my quart jar.<\/p>\n<p>I would not make the vinegar pie again, at least not with that recipe.  This recipe was cooked on the stove and I could not find any other vinegar pie recipe to compare it to; every other one I found was baked, some with meringues.  My first issue was that I was supposed to boil the liquids, then add the dry ingredients, including some flour.  What happens when you add flour to boiling water?  It clumps.  I could not work out all of the clumps and I stirred this thing constantly for 20+ minutes.  It also never thickened like I thought it should either.  I eventually just poured it into the baked crust any way and stuck it in the fridge for a few hours.  It wasn&#8217;t that bad after chilling for so long but I still wouldn&#8217;t make it again since it wasn&#8217;t especially delicious either.  No one knew there was vinegar in it until I told them though.  It just tasted like a sugar pie but slightly tart and appley.<\/p>\n<p>The dried apple pie was delicious.  I love doing meringues and I loved the custard filling too.  It&#8217;s a good thing I have lots of dried apples because I will definitely do this again.  No one could tell the apples were anything but fresh.<\/p>\n<p>I did something new for my pie crusts.  I&#8217;ve always just done a shortening-based crust but both the Barbara Swell pie book and my <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Rustic-Fruit-Desserts-Crumbles-Pandowdies\/dp\/1580089763\">Rustic Fruit Desserts<\/a> cookbook recommend a butter-based crust.  The recipes are pretty much the same in both books.  The butter crust was good but it was more trouble than my regular crust so I don&#8217;t know how often I&#8217;ll use it.  If I wanted to be really authentic for tonight, I would have done a lard-based crust.  Alas, there is no lard in my kitchen.  I do plan on doing a lard-based crust at some point because I hear it&#8217;s very tasty.  I think only my family would be interested in trying that though.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/kris.kribit.com\/artisanbread\/sourdoughbiscuits.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last year a friend of mine started a book club. It&#8217;s just six of us and we take turns picking books and meet once a month at someone&#8217;s house for dinner and discussion. Sometimes the cook tries to match the dinner to the book. 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